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PRE-APPLICATION
FAQ
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These are
questions asked by a prospective student to a recent graduate:I
got your name and contact details from Paul Honeywill at University of
Plymouth. I had contacted Paul looking for some feedback about the Masters
course as I'm thinking of applying. He tells me you're now employed, which
makes me optimistic!!
To
cut a long story short, I'm just trying to digest as much info as possible
about my options. I'll be moving over from Dublin, so will be spending about
20,000 euro between living expenses and fees. I just need to weigh up whether
it's worth it! My gut instinct is to do it, but I guess I'm a bit apprehensive
as well about the financial commitment.
Costs
OK definitely look to budget course costs and living fees, and don't
forget to build in a period after graduating when you'll be looking
for a job (average is 6 months). First of all at Plymouth you may want
to only do the vocational/taught part of the course the Postgraduate
Diploma - and either leave or return to the Masters part (Basically
a giant dissertation or project at the end of the diploma). Nevertheless
I took out a postgraduate loan of approx £7500 to cover the course,
costs, living fees and after course living costs when I did the Publishing
course with the University of Plymouth. I felt, and I still feel I needed
to do this to do the course and get a job in Publishing, but I am also
not due to finish paying off the loan at a rate of £100 a month
until 2007. If you look at similar loans, do some research on all of
those available (HSBC, Barclays, Halifax, Lloyds, Nationwide and so
on), their rates and clauses and any early payback clauses, then discuss
them with a friend and or your parents. Your parents may have to be
the guarantors or agree to provide the security against the loan. However,
I would definitely recommend looking into any grants you may be entitled
to from:
a) Your
local education authority/provider (e.g. county council/local gov.)
b) the
Irish government
c) The
European union - a Scottish friend of mine who did a postgraduate Publishing
course (I think it was Stirling), was entitled to a European grant of
some kind
d) The
University of Plymouth or whichever college you choose to study at -
they may well offer bursaries to overseas students and/or students with
financial difficulties - these are often available on a first come first
share basis - contact the college support/finance offices for more info.
Websites for all of the above should give you most if not all the info,
or some contact details of someone who should be able to answer anything
else
I
had thought of just packing up and taking myself off to London in the hope
of getting work and moving along from there. I feel a Masters might provide
me with a bit more security and broaden my options when job hunting... would
you reckon this is the case?
Options
Well, I'm not sure what publishing courses are available in Ireland,
but certainly there are some publishers, particularly in Dublin, who
I'd recommend approaching and asking if you could do some work experience
with them. This would be helpful for several reasons:
a) Obviously
it'll give you an introduction to publishing before you have to spend
any large sums of money
b) It'll
give you a start on your C.V. and
c) It
may also help you to choose (or eliminate) the type of publishing (e.g.
Education, Trade, etc), or area (e.g. Production, Editorial, Marketing),
that you may be interested in pursuing either directly via applications,
or at college
Here's
the URL for the Irish Publishing Association which might be helpful:
http://www.publishingireland.com
London
and applying directly, vs college first: In my experience of publishing
so far and I can only speak for Academic/Educational publishing (I've
attached a copy of my CV and application letter which I used to get
my current job at Oxford University Press as a Custom Publishing Print
Co-ordinator). I've found that people's qualifications tend to vary
depending on what area of publishing they enter. New starters in Editorial
(Editorial Assistants generally) tend to have degrees in humanity subjects,
predominantly English but no formal publishing qualification. Marketing
Assistants are similar, Marketing degree or similar qualification, but
rarely a publishing qualification though usually they have a fair bit
of sales and marketing experience at other firms. Rights I couldn't
say. But in Production, its almost the norm for applicants to have done
a publishing course, usually a post grad. because of the need for technical
knowledge/understanding of processes.
In
his email, Paul said that a Postgraduate Diploma or Masters will at least
get me along to interviews; did you find it easier with it on your CV? Also,
without being too nosy, what are you doing now that you have it? Paul mentions
you're with OUP, do many of your colleagues have a similar qualification?
Though
I would also say that the publishing postgraduate course definitely
helps with applications and getting interviews, makes people much better
at their jobs and I think makes them more likely to progress in publishing
because they understand more about the process and industry as a whole.
Often new starters without a publishing qualification come in for a
year or two, don't see any career progression and leave for other jobs
and industries. Having said that its often down to the individual and
their drive on how well they do, irrespective of their training and
background.
I'd
love to get any thoughts or advice you might have. I reckon it's always
best to speak to people who've actually "been there" to get the
most constructive ideas!
Though
I would also say that the publishing post grad definitely helps with
applications and getting interviews, makes people much better at their
jobs and I think makes them more likely to progress in publishing because
they understand more about the process and industry as a whole. Often
new starters without a publishing qualification come in for a year or
two, don't see any career progression and leave for other jobs and industries.
Having said that its often down to the individual and their drive on
how well they do, irrespective of their training and background.
Finally,
although I would heartily recommend the University of Plymouth publishing
course (good all round approach with a chance to focus on your preferred
area as you go, especially with the University
of Plymouth Press Paul has started up) and excellent tutors (pick
Paul's brain at all possible opportunities)and while we were there we
had a ratio of 9 students to 4 tutors - well worth the money I thought,
don't forget there are other colleges and Universities that offer publishing
courses such as Oxford Brookes University (Editorially focused I believe
and potentially you could do part time work experience at OUP at the
same time) and the London College of Printing (very Production focused
and once upon a time the only course available, but again you could
do part time work experience with any number of London based publishing
companies). Check them all out until you're happy with the one that's
right for you (just don't forget the cost of living in London and to
some extent Oxford).
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